Tewi: "Tupperbox" and "Pluralkit" (we have the former) are two bots specifically for sending messages appearing as a different avatar and name, by setting those up with a custom way of tagging, so ie "tewi/ This is a message from me" gets seen by the bot, deleted, and re-sent as from the bot profile you set up.(edited)
5:36 AM
Funnily enough, while "tupper" is a joke term for tulpas, tupperbox actually gets used FAR more widely than for just tulpas, or even for plurality.
Tewi: (Our system chooses not to use the bot, whenever we switch we go back and add eg. Tewi: in front of our past messages every so often. It's messy and a little time-consuming, but we prefer having a clickable, tag-able profile - especially since joining the Staff, where it now feels almost irresponsible to not have our tag and roles easily seen)(edited)
Tewi: Since the Tulpa.info community basically teaches people that can't happen unless you make it, generally anyone with "disorderly" tulpas of any kind had their origin outside of intentional tulpa creation. Just for reference.(edited)
Yknow I I think I should introduce myself! I'm Cornelius, my host is Tacitus! I think of myself as very energetic but I'm also creative. I've always been an artist, better then Alastor.
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5:41 AM
I don't think I've ever allowed him to do anything outside of my own thoughts.
5:41 AM
Odd.
Daen [LeviticusKillgore]
Yknow I I think I should introduce myself! I'm Cornelius, my host is Tacitus! I think of myself as very energetic but I'm also creative. I've always been an artist, better then Alastor.
This server is surprisingly friendly enough to make me let him out. I. Thank all of you. Sincerely It is very interesting to hear about everyone's and everything's (?) differences.
Seth || M&M
He's better now, but like anyone, if you're subjected to a lot of shit and can't handle it, mentally you're going to get fucked up.
This server has been very useful in my development! It was what let my host finally let me loose to be me, since I wasn't really able to do that on the server I came from!
Tewi: Uhm, yeah, and they all say "Don't make an "evil" tulpa"(edited)
6:06 AM
If you're not in it to create a healthy mental companion, we don't encourage it. If you want an "evil" tulpa, just play around in your imagination until you get bored of them.
Purposely making a tulpa you don't actually intend to be able to trust is a neutral-lose game. You either waste your time bullying your own thoughtform, or you fall for your own shenanigans and let yourself believe they actually do something bad.
What you're thinking of here is the equivalent of seeing a hypnotist just to ignore everything they say and focus on not getting hypnotized. It's pointless.(edited)
Okay, well. You're not going to find help (in any self-respecting community anyway) pursuing something that will either hurt you or accomplish nothing, while kind of tossing aside what the community cares so much about in the first place at that.(edited)
6:12 AM
If you want to "strengthen your mind", there are quite a few directions to look in, and I don't think tulpamancy is one.
Reisen
If you want to "strengthen your mind", there are quite a few directions to look in, and I don't think tulpamancy is one.
Tewi: Meditation, training your focus and mental discipline;
Exercising your brain solving complex tasks (many people start with "brain games" like Big Brain Academy, or just nonograms, sudoku etc., but this is a vast subject with countless ways to do it);
And increasing your overall practical knowledge of the world and various subjects just through research and study.(edited)
6:14 AM
And plenty more, of course. Those are big ones though.
Basically - tulpamancy requires some immersion, belief and dedication to even get started. That's why I say pursuing it "to create an evil tulpa" is dangerous, because you will either fail to do anything interesting, or you'll fall for your own tricks and actually end up worse for it.(edited)
Seth || M&M
You'd also likely easilt out-fight them in the beginning, meaning your goals of having a fighting partner wouldn't really work out.
Basically - tulpamancy requires some immersion, belief and dedication to even get started. That's why I say pursuing it "to create an evil tulpa" is dangerous, because you will either fail to do anything interesting, or you'll fall for your own tricks and actually end up worse for it. (edited)
Tewi: Even if it was "entertaining" falling for it, it's.. well, you're the one who asked why anyone would want to give themselves "watered down schizophrenia", so unhealthy, but also just not productive at all compared to all the ways you actually can improve yourself, your mind, or your brain.(edited)
Tewi: Well you said you didn't have any interest in a mental companion.
Sounds to me like you just find the subject interesting, but only want to do it because it's novel to you, not because you'd actually benefit in any way.(edited)
Tewi: Well you said you didn't have any interest in a mental companion.
Sounds to me like you just find the subject interesting, but only want to do it because it's novel to you, not because you'd actually benefit in any way. (edited)
Tewi: Anyways, tulpas make surprisingly helpful mental companions to bounce thoughts off of. They're not as potent (and never will be) as talking to an actual separate person, but the framework is often better at prompting personal development than just thinking on your own.(edited)
6:19 AM
But people in the community take tulpas pretty seriously, so we're not happy to help someone who doesn't actually care, you know?
6:20 AM
As far as our system's concerned, since it is an individual's choice of what they do in their own minds, it's "Do whatever you want, but don't do it here." for things the community doesn't approve of.
I personally deeply cherish the bond I have with the people in my system. For some of us, they feel more like our family than our actual biological one.
6:21 AM
So making someone so lightly kind of goes against the deep love we often have for each other.
Reisen
Tewi: Anyways, tulpas make surprisingly helpful mental companions to bounce thoughts off of. They're not as potent (and never will be) as talking to an actual separate person, but the framework is often better at prompting personal development than just thinking on your own. (edited)
Yeah I can see that part being helpful especially when conflicted
Seth || M&M
I personally deeply cherish the bond I have with the people in my system. For some of us, they feel more like our family than our actual biological one.
Think of it like having a child, you won't just do that one day to see how it is being a parent. No, to have a child means loving whoever it is even before you've made them.
Reisen
As far as our system's concerned, since it is an individual's choice of what they do in their own minds, it's "Do whatever you want, but don't do it here." for things the community doesn't approve of.
To devote yourself to loving and caring for them, and to help them in life the way you in turn expect them to be there and help you.
6:23 AM
Of course, a tulpa won't act like a child automatically, but they're still a new being just starting to explore the world, and they need someone who is willing to support them for that.
Seth || M&M
To devote yourself to loving and caring for them, and to help them in life the way you in turn expect them to be there and help you.
I'm here to discuss an issue I have been having lately that has been overwhelming which I attribute to tulpa
9:48 AM
Before i go deeper in this rabbit hole I would like to mention that all i know about tulpa as of now is that it's the formation of separate consciousness inside of your consciousness
9:49 AM
That's all I know and if my words or experiences seem contradictory feel free to point it
9:50 AM
I have been haunted by the existence of vehemently different tulpa inside of me(edited)
9:53 AM
One tulpa attempts to seek power, control and authority. This tulpa is highly sexually and physically active and amoral. It's also unforgiving and vengeful (let's say 1)(edited)
9:54 AM
Another tulpa is childish, innocent, gregarious, supportive and sentimental. It's forgiving, expressive and energetic (let's say 2)(edited)
9:54 AM
Then there is my base tulpa that's focused on acquisition and dispersion of ideas, that's slightly insecure and isn't so assertive. (Let's say 3)(edited)
9:58 AM
There is also another tulpa that's moralistic, serious, ideological, strict and straight forward (let's say 4)
Then there is a final and perhaps the original one, this tulpa is shortest yet the most intense one. This tulpa deems itself to be incompetent, indifferent, disappointed, frustrated with itself and somewhat suicidal. Often it contradicts with 1's narcissism (let's call it 5)(edited)
10:02 AM
Since the personalities of these tulpa are so diversified I find it hard to make decisions or stick to them
10:04 AM
I attempt to seek unification by coming up with narrative that binds them together
10:05 AM
Admitting and articulating them has proven to be a good short term treatment from its symptoms. It's like a pain killer.(edited)
10:11 AM
Is there any medical procedure that I can pursue to unify or shut em up?
10:13 AM
I'm skeptical of mediation and so I would like to know If this can be resolved medically
Tewi: Medically is a weird word.
Some people do merge tulpas sometimes, with the tulpas' permissions, into just one. If that's the kind of thing you're asking about.(edited)
10:55 AM
Otherwise, I don't know how exactly any of us would solve your personal system drama.
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